We’ve all been taught about the terrible twos and we brace for them before they arrive, but in my experience it is the three year old you should really fear! I read an article that talks about the “Tantrum Threes” that rang so true to me. My nearly 3 year old can have a cogent conversation with a 6 year old about the pros and cons of different attractions on the Big Island of Hawaii and how an airplane generates the lift to make it fly, yet a little thing like a cookie can send her into an hour and a half screaming festival that cannot be quelled. It is as if she has the intellect of an older child but the emotional capacity of, well, a kid her age… and that leads to frequent mind-blowing frustration.
With a two year old, I found I could manage the temper tantrums. Distraction works well. Ignoring appropriately can quiet even the most frustrated two year old at times. Behavior charts worked really well for us in the past. Harvey Karp’s “Happiest Toddler on the Block” techniques work too. But right now if I tried the Fast Food Rule or Toddlerese, my daughter would literally laugh at me and say, “Stop talking like a baby, mama!” (This has actually happened). So what can a frustrated mama and a belligerent nearly three year old do?
One afternoon, we experienced a particularly bad tantrum. Little Jacks had a choice between a chocolate covered almond treat or a cookie. She chose the chocolate covered almond, but when she was done she decided that she also wanted the cookie. This was not a negotiable point, since she had already made her choice. The result was the tantrum to end all tantrums. We tried reasoning with her, time out, ignoring, soothing, distracting, the peace corner, classical music and any other mechanism we could think of. Nothing worked and everything we tried seemed to enrage her more. Total time was nearly an hour and a half. Parents and child were both completely undone at the end of it.
I knew our daughter had the intellectual capacity to figure this stuff out when she was calm, but it was just too late at the time she erupted. She was completely consumed by the emotions that had taken over. That evening when she was very calm and quiet, I tried to engage her in conversation about the episode. It was clear that she felt embarrassed about what had happened, and as a result she wouldn’t engage in discussion. I decided that I would have to make it more abstract.
Now, you may remember that we’ve been telling LJ the stories about Ellie the Elephant that my dad told me when I was little. By now, Ellie is beloved in our house and a nightly ritual. It seemed only a minor mental leap to use Ellie to help us with the tantrum. I told LJ a story about how Ellie had a tantrum once and how she stomped so hard that she broke the floor, and shouted so loud that she scared all the other animals, and cried so much that she created a lake. LJ thought this was mighty silly behavior from a 3 year old elephant. At the end of the scenario, I asked, “What should Ellie have done?” At first, LJ’s solutions were pretty rudimentary. She suggested that Ellie should just grab the item she wanted or push her mama away. But after some coaching, LJ started coming up with some better solutions. She thought that it might be a good idea for Ellie to express her anger in words and to look toward a parent for comfort. She also suggested that if Ellie could show good calming that maybe she might get what she wanted (or wait for another time to get what she wanted). That night, LJ fell asleep thinking of all the good coping skills Ellie could use.
I had no idea if this would have any impact going forward, but true to her 3 year old form, Little Miss had a big tantrum the very next day. This time, I asked “What would Ellie do?” She took a deep breath and a pause, and though it didn’t totally break the tantrum, it did significantly calm her. That night, we took the same approach as the night before with lots of stories, questions and answers about feelings and what Ellie would do. We did this every evening after a tantrum occurred, with lots of time spent in problem solving and emotion management.
After a few nights, I found that just asking about what Ellie would do could completely stop a tantrum. LJ would go from screaming to enthusiastically problem solving how she could handle the situation better and how Ellie and her mama would handle it. It’s been a couple of weeks and I’ve noticed a lot more “feelings check-ins” before a tantrum erupts. Things like, “Mama, I’m getting really frustrated because Jack Jack is bugging me.” Or, “I’m sad and angry because I want more yogurt!!!”
As with any approach we’ve tried for tantrums, there is a risk that the technique only works for a little while. Little Jacks has been very resourceful at finding work-arounds for our tantrum management in the past. So far, though, it seems like the Ellie stories have had staying power. Maybe it’s because they actually address the underlying emotional triggers for tantrums and coaches the child to manage emotions in a more appropriate way. Whatever the reason, Ellie has been such a gift for us through the terrible tantrum threes! Let me know if you try something similar and it works for you!
I love the strong sense of self and the strong opinions, but they can make tantrums challenging!
Toddler Tantrums part 9 of 12
1. How to prevent tantrums: A guide to the 5 triggers and 2 stressors that cause tantrums by Mr. Bee2. The Power of Timeouts by Mr. Bee
3. The Case Against Timeouts by Mr. Bee
4. Three Ways to say "no" to your kids by Mr. Bee
5. From Devil to Angel: "Tina's No" by mrs. wagon
6. What Shamu Taught Me About Happy Toddlers by Mr. Bee
7. The Best Parenting Book I've Ever Read by Mr. Bee
8. Cracking the code on toddler tantrums by Mrs. Jacks
9. What would Ellie do? Managing tantrums. by Mrs. Jacks
10. The Trenches of Toddler-Dom by Mrs. High Heels
11. The Nurtured Heart Approach: Disciplining for Greatness by Mrs. Twine
12. Diagnosing Tantrums and Behavioral Problems for 3-4 Year Olds by Mrs. Bee
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
I love this. We are in full blown three year holy terror mode at our house (x3). It’s so hard to break the tantrum once it starts. I’m going to have to come up with a creative Ellie story.
GOLD / papaya / 10166 posts
I hang on to every post you write. I have a feeling that I will be going through the same thing with my girl soon enough, and it’s so nice to have a reference. Thank you!
@Mrs. Train: Oh my goodness! I can’t even imagine doing it w/ 3 – super woman!!
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
Such a delightful read and great advice to try.
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
Great advice! Bookmarking for future reference. I’m totally not looking forward to these tantrums.
pomelo / 5178 posts
This technique has been a lifesaver for our family! I would say DD’s tantrums have decresed at least 50% over the past 2 weeks that we’ve been using stories to problem solve. We use stories staring DD (or a very close relative, “Nancy”), and during tantrums we ask “What do you think is the best way to handle this situation?” I was so amazed how well it worked the very first time; it’s incredible to see her little mind working in such a complex way.
thanks for the tip, Mrs. Jacks!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Mrs. Train: It helps if the child/children are completely swept away by the particular character, so for younger kids, set the stage early and for older kids maybe pick a character that they already love, to get them hooked in quickly.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Honeybee: Thank you for letting me pilot test on your family ;)!
pomelo / 5178 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: anytime.
the truth is, three is still a couple months away and already three has been so hard! I’m convinced that, in addition to the intellect versus emotional maturity issue you pointed out earlier, a big part of the difficult three behavior comes from sleep issues that emerge in the threes. A lot of kids drop their afternoon nap around this age (DD started recently) and the transition to no daily nap seems to be much harder than the transition from two to one nap. I can see DD’s behavior and control deteriorating the closer we get to bedtime, so I know the lack of sleep is affecting her. It must be hard on our little ones to have so much going on inside and so many new challenges to adjust to!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Honeybee: I think that’s a great point. We all know how awesome impulse control is in sleep deprived babies! How is rest time going for you guys? Lala is falling asleep for a half hour to hour on most days (except when I’m home) and that seems to hold her. The real killer is her 10 pm bedtime!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
When I first read your title I thought of my oldest. But noooow I get it! What a neat idea. It’s so nice when you can find strategies that are effective and I really love that this one encourages some higher-order thinking about ways to respond when she is feeling frustrated. What a great tool you are giving her in learning to navigate those tough emotions! I would say from my personal experience, that often the greater the disconnect between mental maturity and emotional maturity, the more tantrums and frustration can come into play. They are able to think about and reason about things that they are not emotionally mature enough to handle on their own. Almost like the brain is frustrated with the emotional system for lagging “behind.” I’m planning to share a little at some point about the discipline theory we use with our child with ADHD/ODD, and one of the things I really like about it is that it advocates that you draw attention to your child’s positive qualities at a time he or she is able to really hear you and be receptive. So, for example, when Ellie ISN’T being aggressive I might say something like, “Wow, Ellie. I really love the maturity you are showing right now in sharing with your friend. You are really being considerate and thoughtful.” And describe in detail the good things I am seeing. I find that her mind is more able to absorb these “lessons” about desirable behavior when she’s not acting out, or frustrated, or overwhelmed. Your daughter sounds like such a neat, thoughtful person, and I just adore hearing about all of the ways you encourage her and respect her as a family!
honeydew / 7444 posts
This is great advice! Even though 1-year old tantrums have been bad, i know that with some distraction or redirection, it can either be prevented or curtailed. I’m scared for when she hits the 2s or 3s but i will definitely file this away for reference!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Mrs. Twine: You bring up some fabulous points. I love your strategy of tanking up the good stuff. It’s said that you need 5 praise inputs to every correction you give, so it’s important to use those corrections wisely and let kids know when they are doing well.
And I think you are correct in assessing the disconnect between mental and emotional maturity. It’s sort of the same as having a learning disability where you are gifted in some areas but lag behind in others. It makes expressing what you know very difficult!
I can’t wait to hear your take on behavior management!
pomelo / 5178 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: Most days she will sleep for about an hour. If she doesn’t sleep at all, she has a very difficult afternoon; if she does nap, she doesn’t want to go to sleep until 8 or 9 at night. So definitely the whole family is feeling the effects of lack of sleep!
I forgot to mention DD’s newest manipulation trick. When she doesn’t want to do something I ask her to do, she starts calling me “mother” instead of “mommy.” And then she’ll tell me, “you’re not my momma; you’re my mother.” Ah, that shining three year old intellectual manipulation at it’s best! I don’t know how she learned that I hate being called “mother” but she uses it every chance she gets now!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@Mrs. Jacks; It can be especially hard (and is especially crucial) when you have a child with an emotional behavioral disorder because in general most people have less positive things to say about those children. I do find that Ellie just benefits tremendously from being recognized for all the things she does and is doing well. We have a family meeting each night, and she is given an opportunity to recognize herself for positive behaviors she showed that day. I find it so interesting that she can be as insightful as she is to both the day’s successes AND challenges.
I’ve been putting off writing anything about it because it’s more dealing with older children, and I know the main focus right now is pregnancy and infancy/toddlerhood. I’ve been feeling like maybe what I’m doing with my challenging six-year-old maybe wouldn’t be too useful to most readers. But there are some aspects of what we do that I think could be expanded into late toddlerhood at least, so… you’ve encouraged me to maybe take it off the back-burner.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Honeybee: Ah, the mother thing is so annoying! We’ve helped solve that with a little trick too. I prefer to be called mama instead of mommy, but Lala knows this and calls me mommy when she’s trying to antagonize me. I have taken to calling her Lalie when she does that (which she hates), and then she’ll revert back to mama when she recognizes how annoying it is to be called by a name you don’t like!
@Mrs. Twine: I think your experience would be very relevant to toddlers!
pomelo / 5178 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: hahaha! Smart momma!
pomelo / 5866 posts
Last weekend, my 2 year old had a super-tantrum because she wanted a (second) pink cupcake before we left a party. After about 20 minutes of hysterics, I told her a story about Princess E and her pink cupcake castle with a soda waterfall in the backyard. It walked her through emotions and solutions and she calmed down so well. Totally works!!
I just started storytelling at bedtime a few weeks ago. I’m convinced the stories are heaven-sent because I had no previous experience in my own family or reading about it, except ideas from Mr. Bee’s post awhile back. Besides managing emotions more keenly, I’ve noticed she shares dreams now and it has pumped up her imaginative play.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@808love: Glad to see you’ve tried it and it worked. For us, I don’t think it would have been as successful if we didn’t do all the problem solving and emotion management around the scenario.
Really it ends up that Lala is telling half the story because I ask her so many questions about why Ellie is doing things and what Ellie should be doing
pomelo / 5866 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: Yes, I love that you gave me the idea to have her suggest solutions to the problems and think it through. When LO gets a little older we’ll try that too. For now, I let her participate by choosing certain parts (animals or choice of food) that goes in the story.
pomelo / 5178 posts
@Mrs. Twine: i’d love to read your insight on older children! We’re quickly moving out of the baby years, and there just aren’t as many resource for kids kindergarten and older.
cherry / 110 posts
I enjoyed the honesty in your struggle with tantrums, because many of us can relate but don’t always want to reveal our struggles publicly.
I would like to share my parenting approach to tantrums here in hopes that it might help you and others, but I fully acknowledge that everyone has their own style and this might not be your style.
(1) Acknowledgment and Validation.
I think that tantrums are a completely normal and developmentally appropriate response at the toddler age. They have all these big emotions that they don’t know what to do with and they don’t know how to cope. It’s really hard being a toddler. And so, I think it’s important to first acknowledge and validate their feelings. “I see that you are upset,” “You’re angry because …” The lack of acknowledgement and validation will further fuel the tantrum because they are not being heard. [Ever hear two grown adults fight? The “you are not listening to me” accusation is a common one. And the not listening (ie lack of acknowledgement) fuels the fight.]
(2) Problem solving and coping.
It looks like you have got an awesome method here for getting your LO to problem solve using Ellie the Elephant. Love it! Sometimes it’s easier to problem solve when we think about others. (Easier to give advice to others than to take our own!) Getting them to problem solve on their own empowers them! I suspect that your Ellie method will have a lot of staying power, and eventually (hopefully?), it’ll give way to your LO not needing to use Ellie as a “middleman” so to speak and just go straight to how would *she* solve the problem.
As for myself, I often say, “I can’t let you do that, but what can we do to make it better?” and let my LO problem solve. It usually works. And when it doesn’t, I’ll have to try your what-would-Ellie-do idea!
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: thanks good tip on picking one they already love.
blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts
This was such a great, helpful post! We’ll be entering the three’s in no time at all, and I’m terrified.
cherry / 119 posts
i’ll have to try this out once my LO gets to the tantrums age! thank you!
blogger / persimmon / 1398 posts
This is such a fabulous solution!! The three’s were horrific here, I really wish I had something like this in my little bag of tricks then!
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
@Viola: Thank you for sharing. You bring up great points!
cherry / 224 posts
@Mrs. Jacks-What a great perspective on tantrums. I agree with you that the twos’ tantrum are more manageable since they often will respond to re-directions and distractions. I like to call them the “terrific twos.”
As for the three years old, yes tantrum behaviors can get a little more complicated.
As noted by @honeybee, yes, there aren’t enough resources; however, I wanted to provide a link for you all which I think will be helpful in understanding your little ones when it comes to their social and emotional foundations.
Vanderbilt university is known for its amazing research on teaching and curriculum. Below is a link for parents/teachers/caregivers (anyone with little ones) on understanding children’s behaviors and strategies to use to help overcome specific behavioral concerns.
On the main page, you will find more links to specific information on the left hand side. There are a lot of information so you can browse through them.
However, the most helpful and direct links are under “practical strategies” and the bullet points on specific age group under the “training modules.”
I work in a preschool setting and we, as a whole school utilize these strategies and modules to support staff and parents in understanding and supporting their little ones’ behaviors.
Our students particularly love Tucker the Turtle story. We use it to help our students control their anger and impulses. You can find this under “practical strategies.”
http://csefel.vanderbilt.edu/resources/strategies.html
I hope this helps.
Good luck with your little ones.
pineapple / 12234 posts
@Mrs. Jacks: Thank you so much for writing this post!!! What a huge help after the week I’ve gone through! I love, “What would Ellie do?”
I really thought through how our tantrums play out and took Mr. Bee’s suggestion of story telling. It worked! When B fights his car seat, all I had to say was, “once upon a time there was a magical car seat” and continue telling the story on the way home. Although, it works – I really love your approach with problem solving. We’ll give it a try!!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
This is such a neat and intuitive approach because it involves the toddler in brainstorming and problem solving. They feel a part of something important! It’s quite brilliant really.
It will be interesting to try this technique when my child is older.
But for now? discipline at 16 months baffles my mind. I have no idea what to do.