Let me preface my story of a hard lesson for my boys by talking about three year olds. I know there are a lot of us out there saying that the terrible threes are way worse than the twos, and as far as the tantrums go… it’s true. The tantrums are bigger, more defiant, and more outrageous. But there is so much more to a three year old than their tantrums and fits. I love just watching my boys when they are playing together nicely. I love seeing how they are growing into little individuals with distinct personality traits. I love having a conversation with them about whatever they feel like talking about. Recently husband talked with my son for over an hour about bugs…. yes, bugs. They just sat there and talked. They have so many thoughts about the world and their observations. I just love it. These are just a few of the great things that fill the time in between the tantrums, which unfortunately is where my little story begins.
My little guys absolutely light up my life but they can certainly push my buttons when they want to.*
As they were crying and screaming at each other, I stopped and called each of their names and told them they were not going to go to Disneyland on Sunday if they kept up this behavior. Two minutes later I was on the phone with my dad letting him know that Disneyland was canceled and we wouldn’t be going. Cue the loud horrific cries and wails of what was clearly a horrendous act. At bed time they each asked if they could still go to Disneyland on Sunday like we had planned, and I said no which resulted in a very long, loud bedtime.
On Saturday my mom asked if they could try to earn their trip back at dinner time. What can I say Grandma is a bit of a pushover. Not wanting to argue with my own mother, I agreed and told the boys if they wanted to earn their trip back they needed to sit down, use their manners and eat nicely at dinner. The chaos of the last couple of weeks continued and I was livid. Our dialog went something like this:
Me: OK you have had enough chances; you are not going to Disneyland. I am going to take Lilly and you will stay here with dad.
Joe: No mommy.
Nick: You aren’t going to leave us. We will still go.
James: Yeah we are going.
Me: No boys you are not going. I am going to wake up early and take Lilly. When you wake up your sister and I will be at Disneyland.
Nick and James: No, we are going to go. Ha!
Me: I am not going to argue. I mean what I say. You are not going.
Nick and James: Silly mommy.
Joe: If I eat all my peas can I still go?
I was furious at my boys for continuing to argue with me when I meant what I said. They were looking me in the eye and laughing at my proposed punishment. All I could think was, who are these children?
Joe had realized that I meant it and was sad, but the other two were just getting under my skin. I got up to refill my water glass so that I could get away for a moment. When I came back they continued with their arguments which Nick followed up with a laugh and sticking his tongue out. I looked right at him and said, “Remember this moment son. This right here has just solidified your punishment; you will not go.”
At bedtime they started in again and I simply said I was not going to discuss Disneyland. The next morning I got up early and took my daughter to Disneyland with my mom for a girls’ day.
We had a fantastic day and grandma spoiled her little girl ridiculously with all kinds of treats. We had a day just for her. Usually we go wherever the boys want to go, but this time our day was catered to her. We had lunch with the princesses, we went on It’s a Small World repeatedly, and the best part was when she napped, I got to shop. I am a Disney fan and since my boys have been born there has not been a lot of Disneyland shopping allotted to this momma. We had such a great day I hardly remembered that we were there as a result of a punishment for the boys.
I tried to look at the good side and Enjoy my day with my little girl.
When we came back from Disneyland the boys were pretty sad. They were looking at her doll and her new shirt and realized there was nothing for them. (I had to repeatedly tell grandma no buying things for the boys.) Again we had a few tears and some pouty faces, but I told them that they could earn their next trip with good behavior and respect for mommy.
Let me tell you — the following week my kids were so much better. I felt like I had to play the role of mean mommy. I had to follow through with my threat to cancel Disneyland. I have even heard my boys tell each other, “She means it; She will take it away if you don’t stop.”
In the short term I felt like the wicked stepmother telling Cinderella she couldn’t go to the ball. In the long run though, I think it truly taught my boys a lesson. I am not just standing in front of them barking out threats with no follow through. If they behave badly they will have consequences. They have learned that this momma means what she says.
We did eventually take the boys to Disneyland after they spent some time working on their behavior.
Have you ever taken away privileges for bad behavior? How did it work out?
** photo credit to Joe Dolen Photography
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5. Momma means what she says by Mrs. Train
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olive / 57 posts
I think this may be my favorite post I have ever read on this site. You are a ROCKSTAR of a mom and your kiddos are lucky to have you!!!
pomegranate / 3414 posts
Good for you and thank you, I needed this. DD turned 3yo April 1 and it has been a battle of wills between her and I ever since; it feels as if she never acts up for DH. I contribute her behavior to my having to split my attention between her and DS (8m) but the more I think about it, it is probably because I often give in rather than fight. I think I’ve taken the “pick your battles” to the point of never battling.
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
Go you for following through on your threats!! DS isn’t here yet, but punishment is something the hubby and I have discussed frequently, even prior to TTC. Following through is one of main topics. I just hope we can still be strong enough come time to implement!
blogger / nectarine / 2687 posts
Good job, momma! I’m often a mean mommy, but Lil’ CB knows I mean what I say! Mommy wins!!
blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts
You’re amazing. You are SO outnumbered by them and I’m surprised they don’t gang up on you more often. I love what you did and the results you got!!
pomelo / 5178 posts
Good work, momma! I’ve had to take things away before and while I feel awful about it, I think it’s good to follow through with our threats. Even thouh it’s hard, it’s good parenting, an dyou should be proud of yourself for sticking to it!
nectarine / 2771 posts
Go mama train!! Love this
blogger / eggplant / 11551 posts
You are such a good mama – way to stick to your guns!!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
Love this post!!!
blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts
Great job! I hope I can take a page from your book one day and follow through like that!
grapefruit / 4669 posts
I think you did the right thing! And a girls trip sounds nice.
persimmon / 1116 posts
Go Momma!!
blogger / pomelo / 5400 posts
You definitely did the right thing! Good job!
clementine / 958 posts
I love this post, too! Thank you for sharing. The one piece of unsolicited advice my mom has given me is that you have to follow through with what you tell kids you’re going to do. Seeing it in action through you solidifies my commitment to doing so, even when it’s really hard – thank you!
GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts
Way to go Mom!!! That is awesome.
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
Love this.
persimmon / 1255 posts
Way to go! I always try to follow through on consequences and promises and probably succeed about 90% of the time. Of course, I only have one child now and she’s only 2.5 years old – I’m sure it will become more difficult as she gets older.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
I just smiled so big while reading this post. So funny. I love it! I agree wholeheartedly about following through!
hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts
Go Momma!!!!!
nectarine / 2667 posts
Way to go! Not only did you follow through,but you did it on something big (Disneyland!!) I teach primary and have learned over the years that you have GOT to follow up on what you say. Which means, for me, I’ve had to learn to watch what I say and really think before I speak. Such a good lesson!
cantaloupe / 6669 posts
You are seriously a rockstar mom!
GOLD / squash / 13464 posts
Good for you!! It makes me so crazy when I hear parents making idle threats that they don’t follow through on (if you don’t stop crying we’re leaving right now.. kid doesn’t stop.. mom doesn’t leave). Your boys may have been sad in the moment but they learned from this lesson. You are amazing for sticking to your guns when you are so outnumbered!
GOLD / coconut / 8266 posts
Baby isn’t here yet but I completely agree with your methods! You are such a great mom!
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
Life lesson learned. A+
pear / 1693 posts
I think it is SO great you followed through! As a nanny I’ve learned the only way I can get kids to respected and listen to me is to follow through on my punishments, even if it’s something I want to do too (like get ice cream!). With my own LO on the way, I hope I can translate this into action with my own kids. I love hearing of mamas that stay strong!
nectarine / 2217 posts
love this post, too!
blogger / apricot / 424 posts
I just want to say good for you! You are one super MOM!
GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts
This was an excellent post, thank you for sharing it!
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Good job!! AND, way to stand up to your mom, too! It’s hard to “deny” the grandparents!
grapefruit / 4671 posts
Way to go! Good on you for sticking to your guns.
pea / 10 posts
Awesome. This is exactly the type of mum I know I’ll be. I’ve learnt a lot about being firm but fair as a secondary school teacher, and always explain it’s not about being mean to the “bad” kid/s, it’s about being fair to the ones who are following the rules.
it worked though, and worked again when I used to nanny a spoilt rotten 3 year old!
My dad had us trained as kids that we might get a treat at a shop if we waited quietly and politely, and that we’d never get one if we so much as asked. We would have been quite the sight as a 5 and 3 year old, biting our tongues in the hope that we might get something
grape / 81 posts
Well done! Great life lesson.
grapefruit / 4923 posts
you are a strong, fair mama–i am so impressed!
GOLD / papaya / 10166 posts
That picture of you and your girl – I die – so sweet! I’m so glad you wrote this. I have a feeling I will be going back to this in the coming year, as DD continues to test her boundaries.
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
Thank you all for your wonderferul comments. It really meant a lot to me.
@purrpletulips: My oldest and I butt heads a lot. We both have a stubborn stresk in us and it can be painful to witness. The hardest part is picking the battles you want to, or need to fight.
@Alivoo01: it can be so hard to stay strong when they get so sad but after I think I have gained some imunity to the tears and pouty faces.
@Mrs. Cowgirl: Absolutely, sometimes we have to be mean.
@mrs. wagon: I am a bit afraid that someday they are going to figure out that they do outnumber me. I think one day my husband will come home to be hog tied and locked in a closet or something
.@Honeybee: Thank you. I was a litle proud of myself. I really thought I would cave and take them or at least bring them something home but I didn’t!
@yerpie110: @Mrs. High Heels: @mrbee: Thank you so much.
@mrs. tictactoe: I’m sure you will!
@tororojo: The girls day was awesome, it made me kind of glad to have the chance to go with just her and my mom.
@citymouse: @Mrs. Yoyo: @Smurfette: @chopsuey119: thank you!
@owlmom: You know its funny. My mom gave me the same advice and she never had trouble saying no to my sister and I but when it comes to her grand babies she a softie, I guess thats the right of a grandmother.
@Red: It is a little harder as they get older and more defiant. It is also harder when you add more chidlren into the mix because you don’t always have time to dedicate to the follow through.
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
@Mrs. Pen: I’m so glad it made you smile.
@mewtill: Disneyland was definitely a hard one. It was big but I knew I needed the impact. I have gotten a lot better and watching what I say so that I can actually do it if I need to.
@autumnlove: @daniellemybelle: @swedishfish: Thank you
@MamaMoose: I have cought myselft making threats and not following through but I have even taken my tantrum throwing toddlers out of Disneyland while we were there to serve a time out outside fo the park.
@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I hope so!
blogger / pomegranate / 3300 posts
@JessKas: Thank you, staying strong can be so hard but I know its important.
@tysonja: @Mrs. Tea: @FutureMrsMcK: @plantains: Thank you so much.
@hamikay: I should try that no asking thing next time I go to the store. Mine are usually constantly askign me for something.
@mythreeboys: @edelweiss: Thank you.
@BabyBoecksMom: Thank you, its absolutely one of my favorite pictures of us!
@Hollienoël thank you, denying the grandparents is as battle I fight all the time. It can be harder than the kids
blogger / persimmon / 1220 posts
Love this!